C, C++ is the mosed used Language in OpenSource Software and the most OpenSource Software is a lot better than there commercial counterpart…

If i would be a company i also would use C#. Most companys develop for windows and most windows user who would by my software in the end would be not that clever and not care about memory/CPU usage at all. Especially with games.

If the Software is to slow, windows users buy better hardware instead of use better software and thats what companys count for.

I can say that; C/C++ is all about the power in the hands of the developer and it’s up to the developer to do his job - make a better program.

C# is all about simplicity. It’s good for someone who doesn’t require to know every detailed of programming [like allocating, de-allocating memory] can can start becoming a developer in flash.

Even after this many years C/C++ being the top choice for development [always in top 5 for past x many decades] proves my point.

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

besides, it’s best to stick to the comfortable tool.

In my own point of view what suites you best is what you should use.

whichever will make you succeed in your career will always be the best for you.

Good luck to all :p

Yessssss!

I find your argument about ‘old school’ programmers amusing. I am one of the younger programmers where I work, but I started in computers very early. I tought myself a few languages and attended college where I learned others.

I am open to new ideas. I work with other fresh minds and most of them are all about .NET and C#. Fact is, as I talk with them about languages and programming, it has become painfully obvious that they aren’t polished programmers. They do not know how to write tight code. They also seem to be clueless how to fully leverage C++. I blame poor teachers for this. My C++ teacher in college was terrible. IMO, most programming teachers teach like math teachers - unable to create a compelling real-world example of why you should use specific tools and why to use them a certain way.

These C# proponents I work with have decent troubleshooting but not excellent. These are sharp guys with holes in their knowledge. Nothing personal to them or the other C# proponents, but C++ and the people that are skilled in it just seem to produce the best, fastest, most well though-out code. As someone else pointed out in this thread, C# is for beginner and intermediate programmers. IMO, it’s the programmers that are intermediate that think they are polished that seem to tout C# as the better language.

While I am making a case, the argument about standard libraries doesn’t make sense to me. It makes sense if you reinvent the wheel over and over again. Any programmer is going to make a set of their own libraries they use from program to program. Even in C#. While one may spend some extra time initially building some libs to make C++ friendlier for quick programming, the end game for a decent programmer is similar productivity for new programs. As a for instance, if I am writing a new C++ program that interfaces with XML, I don’t code an XML class all over again. I use the one I already made. I’d rather have my C++ libs than C# without my libs.

At the end of the day, there are too many technical things to do and not enough great programmers to go around. This argument ends up as academic. C# is here to stay and C++ is here to stay. Use the tool that matches your skill set + target hardware and enjoy bringing programs to life.

-G

But you have to be a really bad programmer to write an C++ App that is slower than an C# app.

And why not take the best from both? Vala for example have the same Syntax than C# but it doesn´t use .NET.

The Source gets converted into C and then gets compile by your favourite C-Compiler (for me its GCC)

So you have automated Memory management, easy syntax and all the other pussy stuff but still have the great speed

http://live.gnome.org/Vala (also take a look at the Wikipedia article)

And you can´t compare C++ with C# in every case. C# have a big library behind it named .NET with which you are much more productive than with ANSI C++

But for example with Qt you can write C++ apps 1000x faster and with less code than with C# and .NET and you dont lose and ms of speed.

So if someone really says he have to use C# becease of advantage XY than he just dont know how to compare (99% Windows users)